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How much is a word worth on HIVE? Payouts by word count, pay per word, top authors and other insights

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holoz0r10.9 K4 days agoPeakD20 min read

Hello. I'm back after delving into the data set I downloaded some time ago. Again, I'm examining a period of just a single week, with my sample data being from the 18th of May, 2025, to the 24 of May, 2025.

https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/holoz0r/23xAXWFW5nnSzcj5naLegvvZLZ6CP7unbCSo3jM1LFUEWuEK8XPvgAtdVRuLPMZu1jEiv.pngImage composite completed in Photoshop by @holoz0r using Source 1, Source 2.


Introduction


The goal of this post is to see if posts of different lengths differ in their payouts. It is also to map the distribution of payouts based on word count. Does a high word count indicate a good post? In my human reading, no. In data? Let's find out.

I write this post as I interrogate the data, so you can also get a glimpse into my stream of consciousness and thinking.

First, we need to know what data is being examined:


Data about the data


Here is some overarching information about the data examined:

Data PointLowerUpper
Date18 May 202524 May 2025

Posts examined in period: 14,838
Authors excluded: hbd.funder, peak.snaps, ecency.waves

So, some quick stats:

Payouts

Total PayoutsMax PayoutAverage PayoutMedian Payout
$30,559.21$101.052.050.48

Word Counts

Total Word CountMax Word CountAverage Word CountMedian Word Count
5,928,73910,056399.56248

Insights


Pay Per Word


$0.0052

Yes, that's right, over the week under examination, half a cent per word was paid out on hive. When I was a professional writer, paid on a per word basis to write editorials, reviews and other content, my pay rate was typically 0.12AUD a word.

That was over fifteen years ago, and articles typically took an hour to go from concept to completion - sometimes with longer ideation periods, and for longer, more in depth articles, research took a manner of days.

The written media landscape has changed dramatically from those early days of the Internet however, and Hive, is of course, not those early days of the Internet. We are, Afterall, "web 3.0"

That pay per word is far from a guarantee. Just because I can type ninety or more words per minute, it is not absolutely no guarantee that I will "make" 0.45 just by typing for a minute.

That is because the reward pool is a dynamic, shifting thing. It depends on how many people vote, how they vote, and if there are downvotes. Its a complex thing, and nothing is yours until after the seven day period since it was originally posted has elapsed.

Nothing on Hive is a promise.


Above Average and Below Average Posts


Distribution by Word Count

In this section, I want to see the distribution of posts that are above and below the average word count and median word count.

In order to do this, I have created groups for the word counts. I did this with a simple conditional column in PowerQuery, with different increments of word count as the number of words increase in a given post.

Once groups are put together, this is what I get as a distribution (sorted by number of posts):

Word CountNum PostsPercent of Posts
< 250 Words318821.49%
< 500 Words314521.20%
< 50 Words275818.59%
< 750 Words202013.61%
< 100 Words149210.06%
< 1000 Words9206.20%
< 1500 Words8735.88%
< 2000 Words2431.64%
< 2500 Words1000.67%
> 2501 Words990.67%

As expected, the overwhelming majority, are between the median and the average. If we plot this on a chart, we might get a more meaningful curve of post length.


https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/holoz0r/23z7Z3En3DGJQqioVGbgucHN319o7eMfsSP4DH8vX9DTAyhubNSBL1tTwGqpZgdhsRp22.png

Most posts are above 100 words. Very few posts are above 2000 words. The most likely length of a post is between 101 and 499 words. What do you know, averages and medians work as they should!

If you prefer to see this distribution as a pie chart, because pie is delicious, here it is:

https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/holoz0r/23rBNicuwnpT2jjvUG2EFDiC8k4WXC5EaJzZreQ6SiZv1yQXcJpRqowESN6GAeYEj27e3.png

Now, how many posts (count and percent) are above / below average length?

Word CountCountPercent
Above Average Word Count531735.83%
Below Average Word Count952164.17%

And again, how does that look as a pie chart?

https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/holoz0r/23sK7MMk4ehXR24Eq8GemW14AR6MEChQcXpiFWBU9cF7XrfoiXVMSUTaxuMKzRtjuYeXZ.png

Distribution by Payout, and Word Count

Now is where we're going to get to some of the potentially deeper insights, and to answer an age old question, which I am sure we each have our own hypotheses on. Are longer posts better? By better, I am asking - do they get more of the rewards?

Data holds no lies, only in the way in which it is presented, so I am going to be as neutral as possible in presenting the data.

There's also some important points to consider about word count. I'm not excluding things like headers, code, and for non "English" posts, spaces do not appear as commonly - so posts written using Korean, Japanese, or Chinese characters are likely to have lower word counts, as they seem to contain less spaces overall.

Having said that, the bulk of posts on HIVE tend to be written in English or Spanish, and counting the spaces between words for these languages is a pretty reliable indicator of word count.

Anyway, data:

https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/holoz0r/23xpRccsJMKhLQiQMH8zss575vVTRbgcJXpktr2J6K3UHd8DQ5TNzzmPPxueTth7UHYW9.png

As a markdown table:

Word CountTotal payoutsAverage PayoutsMedian Pay OutHighest PayoutPay Per Word% of Total Pay Outs
< 50 Words$2,100.63$0.76$0$32.73$0.046.87%
< 100 Words$1,315.56$0.88$0.19$36.32$0.014.30%
< 250 Words$3,775.96$1.18$0.32$44.18$0.0112.36%
< 500 Words$7,178.46$2.28$0.83$101.06$0.0123.49%
< 750 Words$6,632.14$3.28$1.61$98.07$0.0121.70%
< 1000 Words$3,934.36$4.28$2.51$49.52$0.0112.87%
< 1500 Words$3,951.40$4.53$3.33$62.27$0.0012.93%
< 2000 Words$1,064.70$4.38$3.09$45.80$0.003.48%
< 2500 Words$319.77$3.20$1.44$33.55$0.001.05%
> 2501 Words$286.23$2.89$1.81$25.48$0.000.94%

I've highlighted average payouts so it is easier to compare against the median and highest payout for the given period for digestibility.

Longer posts tend to be rewarded more handsomely, but the pay per word drops as you add more words. The majority of payouts are in the categories above 250 words and less than 2000 words. Anything longer than 2000 words, people don't seem to have the patience for.

Also, importantly:

Payout OutcomeCount%
Above Average Pay Out364224.55%
Below Average Pay Out1119675.45%

https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/holoz0r/EqUgL3xWoDwbcQVDfbKXGwqceP81bFPNtMQzoGRCY4idNqa4mEWkyt5pLjnwihzwfu3.png

Again, I want to see this data on a continuum to see how payouts correlate with post length, similar to the distribution of word count featured earlier in this post.

https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/holoz0r/243Bygkjr4ciuA3zfa8PPLzNRexeVr8MKVhTR1ZFnm3iUNpWUXptjZNssXRiyPVK2rCjo.png

I am sure you don't want to see this by total payout only, so how about looking at it by average, and comparing it to the median for each category?

https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/holoz0r/23t8DBnQGKbsit47RpLZ2TBVbzcYb9ZZZKfYhmx4pT2X4LkrH9FJXrGFn6Fz2UVeAt4u6.png

Add in the max reward for each category, and its an uglier chart:

https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/holoz0r/Eo6S9Q1T2iqwY4P99yNdSNd1rhuMC63cekabFZvU9DA8PzcxiBRYxxNwfYsoqyj58zE.png

It suggests that the "max" payments (ie, the most rewarded posts) have something new that I am going to introduce for the purpose of the discussion, which is "Reward Factor" this is the Max Rewarded post in a word category bucket, divided by the average reward in that category.

Therefore, we can, at least in terms of reward, consider "how many times better" that highest rewarded post was in that category than the average post. In my years of experience on HIVE, Post reward is not a direct indicator of quality, but a lot of people flock to it as such.

Reward Factor

Word CountMaxReward Factor of highest rewarded postAverageMedian
< 50 Words$32.7342.97$0.76$0
< 100 Words$36.3241.19$0.88$0.19
< 250 Words$44.1837.30$1.18$0.32
< 500 Words$101.0644.28$2.28$0.83
< 750 Words$98.0729.87$3.28$1.61
< 1000 Words$49.5211.58$4.28$2.51
< 1500 Words$62.2713.76$4.53$3.33
< 2000 Words$45.8010.45$4.38$3.09
< 2500 Words$33.5510.49$3.20$1.44
> 2501 Words$25.488.81$2.89$1.81

On Average, the "Reward Factor" for the highest rewarded post is 25.07 across all the word count categories. Is that a fair distribution of the reward pool for the "average" authors?

Does a meritocracy award its best contributors 25 times more "stuff" than the average in other distributed systems or economies?

I suppose also, a better question is, are we rewarding the "best" content?


Bringing it all together


Overall OutcomeCount of Posts%TotalAvgMaxMedian
Above Average Word Count and Above Average Pay Out229615.47%$16,759.91$7.30$101.06$5.61
Above Average Word Count and Below Average Pay Out302120.36%$2,323.77$0.77$2.76$0.46
Below Average Word Count and Above Average Pay Out13469.07%$8,061.51$5.99$61.00$4.85
Below Average Word Count and Below Average Pay Out817555.10%$3,414.03$0.42$2.76$0.08

I now want to take a look at the sample of the most rewarded users in each category.

Above Average Word Count, and Above Average Payout, sorted by Total Payout Top 30:

authorPosts AuthoredWords WrittenTotal PayoutSum of net_votes
coldbeetrootsoup21898$140.941784
tarazkp96756$134.983596
hanshotfirst42561$112.54557
worldmappin74896$112.341808
bozz55513$106.222565
borislavzlatanov1438$101.06763
tattoodjay63675$100.182959
nurfay63110$85.824234
buttcoins21510$83.731415
avdesing67028$80.612415
dalz43675$76.831609
rehan1232896$73.98936
gooddream33374$73.44938
danielcarrerag34714$73.26410
papilloncharity52196$69.781597
jcrodriguez33311$69.71889
sports.guy5532938$68.34632
networkstate34195$67.62366
bemier67257$67.451820
incublus65960$65.912130
nathyortiz67250$65.42500
splinterlands33121$64.161585
giathebao31973$64.11670
aggroed11264$62.27667
verbal-d1532$61.76346
elizabeths1432094$59.761790
giuatt0763923$59.37556
solominer21143$58.81696
dwayne1673563$58.631147
josediccus64991$58.431649

Above Average Word Count, and Below Average Payout, sorted by Total Payout Top 30:

authorPosts AuthoredWords WrittenTotal PayoutSum of net_votes
pimp.token65304$12.521270
hivepakistan54371$12.061483
martinte68167$11.712868
stefano.massari55430$11.46586
sw-kleymer1411511$11.011007
borniet84632$10.93978
kc672962981$10.81132
omztech67046$10.222724
julianhorack54173$9.82476
chinay0453831$9.76872
deeanndmathews55826$9.66475
zain-ab00153685$9.431515
elizabethbit52563$9.421082
osomar35798517$9.15837
kingsleyy63019$9.13573
miguelgabriel-sw64035$8.95538
el-panal43213$8.822305
curangel45574$8.81941
jlufer53441$8.68771
heyhaveyamet63891$8.59679
kley-sw63687$8.58440
daily-crypto41916$8.5150
pocketechange42214$8.46155
daily-photo44238$8.44160
offia6653331$8.37638
akrros64527$8.32476
adaezeinchrist63641$8.20930
abdul-qudus42337$8.18532
amjadsharif53364$8.17225
joelibra52255$8.11676

Below Average Word Count, and Above Average Payout, sorted by Total Payout Top 30:

authorPosts AuthoredWords WrittenTotal PayoutSum of net_votes
oflyhigh676$181.621551
daveks61002$98.292138
redditposh6554$83.671691
poshtoken6525$82.531653
ijelady51308$81.99738
jychbetter7112$63.541032
lordbutterfly1264$61.00456
bxt6128$59.93431
rivalhw642$59.22716
mrspointm659$55.86955
zhangyan-123654$52.97980
calebmarvel2451005$52.33571
alex-rourke4641$51.68810
claudio8351071$49.22866
grindle3758$48.271341
kkarenmp72583$46.41311
eliigonzalez61602$44.40675
funworlding61525$44.34126
restinpeace61352$44.31106
youngartfair1236$44.18680
galenkp51627$43.931126
atyh6774$42.87786
thedistriator1336$42.35396
adelepazani61321$41.76545
mahar26102957$41.62636
susanli3769623$39.92564
vesytz3786$39.682062
atem.art4489$38.39700
monochromes62219$38.194087
pushtoken1362$37.83196

Below Average Word Count, and Below Average Payout, sorted by Total Payout Top 30:

authorPosts AuthoredWords WrittenTotal PayoutSum of net_votes
justmythoughts255724$19.36905
nave718381$18.48378
krolestwo112308$16.18499
erosyu61551$14.48171
rainbowzhou657$14.09220
new.things91537$13.64714
sinelux62166$13.42411
zimurenli546$12.75164
gidlark6947$12.51316
scifimultiverse6798$12.2984
cryptounicorn42061298$12.151456
williamyu51320$12.04166
yumingli547$12.00134
kawsar8035153782$11.901722
toofasteddie6681$11.70458
ssekulji51130$11.42296
improv51093$10.99472
drlobes5398$10.72576
kachy202291017$10.48202
teamukraine6280$10.45307
jeffspace5176$10.37164
flemingfarm6634$10.35931
radiogaga51318$10.30322
nasseir162574$10.14730
jasonmunapasee61378$10.121105
sunshinexu436$10.07125
katerinaramm61132$9.42639
felt.buzz111160$9.401321
zoricatech5841$9.29158
paty20056198$9.21376

Who are the "laziest" writers on HIVE? ie, who has the highest payout per word written?

I suppose you could also call this the "most efficient" category, top 30, sorted by pay per word.

authorPay Per WordPosts PublishedWords WrittenTotal PayoutTotal Votes
dengyanping888$3.3411$3.3471
emmali$2.7267$19.01259
alpha-omega$2.5367$17.68479
oflyhigh$2.39676$181.621551
susanli3769$1.74623$39.92564
rivalhw$1.41642$59.22716
pepovelez$1.2911$1.2926
cheva$1.0656$6.36309
zhangyan-123$0.98654$52.97980
yellowbird$0.9734$3.89140
mrspointm$0.95659$55.86955
l337m45732$0.94115$14.11159
mrpointp$0.81218$14.50250
lijans$0.6622$1.3165
evahe$0.65654$34.942374
lovequeen$0.65656$36.18748
illmaskmajor$0.65125$16.1437
love5200$0.62654$33.68440
carolin77$0.58654$31.50432
nostalgic1212$0.581263$36.41914
jychbetter$0.577112$63.541032
deanliu$0.51126$13.32178
aellly$0.51654$27.64397
annepink$0.50119$9.56129
bxt$0.476128$59.93431
ailgoy$0.44436$16.00373
abrockman$0.43234$14.63424
marygong77777$0.41770$28.45303
sunflor$0.40654$21.45243
bai123$0.39327$10.66122

Finally, because I am curious about myself during the period, my pay per word was $0.0087, a little bit above average for posts overall.

I realise this post is long and will be a lot to take in, but for discussion:

  • Are we rewarding people appropriately?
  • Do people need to turn off their autovoters and curate manually?
  • Do we have a culture of nepotism on hive?
  • Is longer content more valuable? (Depends on the category, I guess)
  • Can this data be used to downvote content of poor quality that is getting a (perceived) unfair portion of posting rewards?
  • How can HIVE retain "top talent" content creators by rewarding them more appropriately?

If you got this far, thank you for reading!

I look forward to the discussion!


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